[Zestaw] Airsoftowa strzelba automatyczna AEG SGR-12 [EMG] + Magazynek Mid-Cap polymerowy 100 kulek do CM.102 - Black [CYMA]

Podejrzewam że co seria to inne wykonanie. Replika masywna (nie ma miętkiej gry), dla kogoś kto ceni komfort w grach będzie ciężka i toporna, na razie nie posiadam dodatkowych akcesoriów prócz bębna na 3k kulek, ale z opisów innych użytkowników widzę że replika będzie miała ładnych dodatkowych kg po dodaniu akcesoriów. Jak za tą cenne, co jest na promocji (kupiona gdzieś z końcem października) to polecam (choć replika nie należy do łatwych, rozwiązanie GB - cały ten mechanizm to kosmos). Nawiązując do pierwszego zdania - mój egzemplarz nie potrafi strzelać 3 na raz kulkami tylko różnie, dopiero jak gumki HU sie rozgrzały było lepiej albo też kwestia magazynka (strzelane na bębnie, bez ciągłego podawania potrafi oddać strzał na sucho), brak miejsca na większą baterie przy replice która jak repliki wsparcia zasypują przeciwnika kompozytem to śmiech i żart tego kto zaprojektował tą replikę strzelby. Dodatkowo dla mnie, minus za brak instrukcji do repliki (trzeba samemu dojść jak wyregulować hop-up).

Posiadam tą replikę od nie dawna jest ciężka około 4,5 kg ale po dodaniu kolimatora,latarki i puszki Pec waga wzrosła do 6

Replika ciężka i koszerna!
Strzelanie niezwykle przyjemne pomimo jej gabarytów.
Z plusów można wymienić między innymi:
-Wagę repliki,
-sztywność uppera i lowera (po próbie gimnastyki w sprawdzaniu jakości stwierdzam, że jest to istny monolit)
-zadowalającą kultura pracy (bez dźwięku zjadanych zębatek )
-silnik nie grzeje się przy dłuższej serii na full auto
- kompatebilność z magazynkami AA12 TM
-lepsza elektronika niż w pierwowzorze TM
-elementy wew. Kompatybilne z większością części na rynku (silnik, lufy, gumki, zębatki....)
-dostępne magazynki od Cymy, które są tańsze i mógłbym się kłócić, że nawet lepsze od TM

Niestety minusy też są:
-mało miejsca na baterie która wynika z konstrukcji i wielkości GB (tylko bateria zalecana przez Sprzedawców pasuje)
-lufy wewnętrzne nie są równoległe względem siebie, co ma skutkować że kulki na pewnym dystansie będą się skupiać. Co w moim odczuciu jest dużym minusem bo po skupieniu się kulek one się rozchodzą przez co replika traci na celności na średnich dystansach (jest na to sposób aby je poprawić)

Replika przyjemna w użytkowaniu dająca satysfakcję w CQB, na promocjach bardzo interesująca pozycja do kolekcji i baza do stworzenia potwora do lasu jak i CQB. Zakup bardzo udany

Magazynek jest wykonany ładnie i podaje poprawnie do ostatniej kulki ze względu na "dzyndzel" popychający kulki do komory. Jednakże jest coś co można uznać za minus a jest nim zaczep magazynka który wsuwa się ciasno i przez to trudniej mu się zaczepić bez użycia lekkiej siły. Konsekwencją tego jest to, że przy niedokładnym wpięciu może się samoistnie wypiąć po chwili.

Cóż tu powiedzieć, naprawdę świetna replika. Przesiadłem się na nią z gazowej pompki od GE i jestem mega pozytywnie zaskoczony.
Prosto z pudełka replika ciężka i solidna, świetnie spasowana.
Na polu CQB już pompka siała strach, a od dźwięku STRa wszyscy uciekają.
Jak na elektryczną strzelbę ROF na 11,1V jest zadowalający +- 13 strzałów/s
Magazynki solidne, choć czasami brakuje trochę Hi-Capa
Z plusów, Drum na 3k kulek od AA12 pasuje i działa idealnie : )

Plusy:
Dobrze wykonana
Dobry zasięg (można pobawić się z innymi gumkami i nieco go podnieść)
Dużo miejsca na celowniki, uchwyty itp
AUTOMATYCZNA STRZELBA
DO KTÓREGO WCHODZI DRUM
ROF ok 13 x 3 kulki

Minusy
Ciężka (4.5kg, z pełnym drumem i red dotem prawie 6kg)
W kolbie tyle miejsca na baterię co kot napłakał, LiPo 11,1V wchodzi na słowo honoru
Rozebranie na części zajmuje 100 lat
Dość energiożerna

Ogólnie: 10/10

Magazynek jak to magazynek, spełnia swoje zadanie. Jest całkiem duży więc nie pasuje do każdej ładownicy. Ale ma wystarczająco amunicji, polecam brać ze sobą trzy takie na jakieś CQB. Jako że broń do której są te magazynki wystrzeliwuje je całkiem szybko.

Witam,sprzęt godny uwagi,dobre i solidne wykonanie z elektroniką,prostą ale zawsze,2 magazynki w zestawie,szkoda że niema w opisie o elektronice i magazynkach,ciekawe ile pśmiga i minus,drogi box a tracer jeszcze droższy,na ale cóż żadne hobby nie jest tanie!

Magazynek ładnie wykonany. Duży masywny. Nie ma problemów z podawaniem. Nie wypada z repliki siedzie ciasno
Mieści się się ładownicy od M4. Wchodzi ciasno ale przynajmniej nie wypadnie podczaszy biegania.

Długo myślałem nad zakupem tej replik. Lubię nie typowe sprzęt więc kupiłem.
Pierwsze wrażenie bo otwarciu pudełka było mieszane replika jest duża i ciężka w porównaniu do innych. Magazynek też jest długi i duży. Magazynek mieści się do ładownice od M4 chociaż wchodzi ciasno.
Pierwsze wrażenie po strzelaniu. Było bardzo pozytywne. Mimo dużego rozmiaru idealnie spisuje się w warunkach Cqb. Zasięg jest zadowalający. Od przeciwników też dostawałem pozytywne opinie o zasięgu.
Zalety
Dobry zasięg
Dobra celność
Trzy lufy
Super wygląd
Idealna do Cqb jak i na średni dystans.
Dużo tańsze niż konkurencyjne modele
Wady
Mało miejsc na baterie
Nie dla każdego. Replika jest duża i sporo waży.
Ocena 5/5 Polecam.

This SGR looks great, is tall but well balanced, and even runs on a 7.4V battery. However, as you can read on this page, I recommend playing with an 11.1V one. Now let's talk about the other side of the coin... magazine and joule:
where I live, we can't go above 0.99J or 305fps, once I opened the box, I found a paper page that said: 304 fps, but, with open hopup and 0.2g bb, it was 378 fps (1.47J), now, I can replace the spring (which they put inside the box), but they are not simple things... This gearbox is a modified V7 and has many things that should not be touched by inexperienced people.
for the magazine part: is cool for the design, but 110 rounds are very low for an automatic shotgun with 3 barrels that fire at the same time... i know that i can buy the drum mag, but is not available now and the standard is not practicle like the drum that is electric... you can carry a single drum with 3100 round.. with the long one, you have to carry 30 magazine that is insane

Very durable. Indistinguishables from the one that comes with the replica.

I wouldn't recommend loading more than 80 bbs in these because the spring is really stiff and it seems to be putting a bit of stress on the mag.

These are actually 30-shot mags as others have pointed out because of the unique trishot feature and feed to the very last bb.

The mags fit in 8Fields radio style pouches.

1/5 – Failed Before First Game

I bought the SGR-12 expecting reliability. It didn’t even survive to my first match.

From first week, the gun jams constantly. BBs get stuck inside the gun and when they do come out, they barely travel a meter in front of me. Completely unusable. This happens on both semi and full auto.

It’s not a magazine issue either. I tested it with the drum mag and with a standard magazine. Same result. Jams, weak output, zero consistency.

This is unacceptable for a platform at this price point. I didn’t even get to field it once. Out of the box, it failed.

Right now it’s a heavy, expensive paperweight. I expected performance. I got frustration.

A well build replica. Battery space in the stock is too small if you want to spray a lot (and definately you want) you have to change it often (after 600-700 shot) . 11.1v li-po is a must for operate the replica. Some greasing befor first use was necessary for mine, gearbox clearence was correct.

A beautiful, heavy piece of art. It's a very high quality for such price range.

You get one magazine (which is also a high quality), cleaning rod and a spring.

It's A LOT bigger in a person than on videos/pictures, and looks MONSTROUS!

10/10 would recommend to anyone that's looking for a bit uniquer equipment.

I really like it, it's robust, heavy, it does its job nicely. You still have to get used to its weight, but that's exactly why it doesn't feel like a replica. The fact that I managed to buy it on sale is a plus point. I can only recommend it to everyone, it has a shooting range of 40-50m.

Gostei muito. Tem o problema do grande peso mas é o que temos. Tem a grande vantagem de ter um hop up por cada dos três canos e assim se pode regular os tiros para as bb´s irem juntas. Tem uma boa distância para uma shotgun elétrica. Muito bom

Muito boa réplica de airsoft. Tiro constante depois de regular o hop up de cada cano interno (3 canos internos). Só não dou 5 estrelas devido ao elevado peso da réplica e com uma manhã a jogar cansa muito os braços. Bastante satisfeito com a réplica

Replica meravigliosa, divertentissima da giocare, unica pecca il vano batteria molto stretto.
Non c'é ramo che possa resistere ai suoi colpi, se utilizzata con il drum l'emozione sale alle stelle.
Consigliatissima, un ottimo rapporto qualità prezzo, rosata abbastanza stretta fino ai 15/20metri, personalmente ho deciso di istallare canne di precisione e gommini fps per mantenere la precisione anche a tiri più lunghi.

What can I say, it's a big gun for a big guy, it's heavy as f..k (approximately 5 kg with standart box magazine and almost 6 kg with drum magazine full of 0.2g bb's), reliable (it's CYMA) robust (yes, it's aluminium and polymer but parts fit together perfectly, no wobbling, everything is solid), add some special tracer unit (25mm) and a drum mag and you can scare the living s..t out of you're enemys! With 3 separated hop up units you can increase spread for CQB or make it smaller so you be able to shoot lasers,
There is one big minus: battery compartment is really tiny, but if you have access to 3d printer you can download and print a little part that can resolve this issue, on cults3d for a cost of a cup of coffee.
Overall it is great weapon of mass destruction, if you can handle it.

metto 4 stelle solo per un motivo. a raffica la replica non regge...
dunque, il fucile è bello solido e ha un bel aspetto.
il peso si sente (è dichiarato nella descrizione della replica), dopotutto il corpo è in metallo! a colpo "singolo" sembra un cecchino. i 3 pallini vanno dritto al punto.
a raffica purtroppo escono i problemi sia nella costanza di fuoco... che in precisione. il meccanismo non regge il fuoco continuo. e con la 11.1 il motore tende a scaldarsi tanto. ma nello stesso tempo con la 7.4 non riceve la spinta giusta.
se vai con la 11.1 a colpo singolo, questi problemini non si scontrano.
per quanto riguarda il caricatore. esteticamente è bello, ma il meccanismo di incastro mi preoccupa un po in quanto è fatto tutto di plastica e sembra abbastanza fragile. per adesso devo ancora testarlo bene. ma in ogni caso, finche è in offerta... è da approfittare!

The product is crude, it's too heavy, it's advisable to replace the main iron frame with aluminum, the excessive 11.1 volt battery will most likely break the gearbox after a couple of games, the magazine falls out during intensive shooting, its mount is unreliable.It shoots very painfully, leaving bloody bruises from a distance of 5 meters. I recommend shooting at a minimum distance of 10 meters.

First of all the sgr-12 is beautiful, its high quality and heavy, like 5 kg heavy, add a full drum and attachments and you'll reach right above 6kg.
But this just adds to the feeling of power you get when you bring this thing to a game.
The only downside I can find with this gun is that the motor is right inside the cheek rest so it's quite loud when firing.

this thing is awsome it strikes fear into your enemys its loud its heavy and if you combine it with the drum mag its super awsome.

this thing will even make the thoughest cry like a baby.
bushes and branches dont worry you will get through it hahah. 10/10 i will dual wield it if i had the money

Works great, and has a surprisingly tight grouping to about 60 ft. The one downside is it's heavy, but that's easily fixed by adding a sling. The fire rate is also not bad with a 900 11.1 battery, tried it with a lager size battery (1400 11.1) and it seems to fire much slower and struggles with automatic fire.

This thing is cool. It is the AA-12 on the inside, but now solid on the outside as well. When you walk around with the SGR-12 you will scare people just by the sound it makes when firing full-auto. It is loud, big, heavy- just the way I like my replica's. Most of the weight of the SGR-12 is in the back, above the pistol-grip. I mounted a bunch of stuff to the front just to balance out the weight.

One of the best shotguns I’ve owned. Bulky and feels like it’s really well built. Only thing is that the battery compartment is really small. Taiwangun also shipped it well and fast. Will definitely buy from them again. They also provided the tracking immediately when i asked for it through their support.

Solid shotgun! Everything is aluminum except the lower receiver, which is polymer. Heavy gun with a reasonable trigger response stock, but it's an incredible room broom in CQB.

Motor is a red Chihai 22TPA short with neodymium magnets. Barrels are 6.08ish aluminum with a 7mm OD, and the buckings are normal Cyma black rubber with a normal nub on the top barrel with fixed convex nub arms for the side barrels. Most fasteners are Torx with a few Phillips and at least 1 JIS.

The gearbox is mostly custom MiM steel gears with a CNC'ed 9 tooth V2/V3-compatible bevel gear. The big gears have 4mm axles, and the bearings here are 8mm OD 4mm ID flanged. You'll need 4mm axle shims if you want to reshim this gun.

My replica tested about 315fps out of the box with zero hopup set.

Battery compartment is tiny, you'll want ~700-800mAh batteries here. Don't bother with a 2S, you'll need the extra oomph from a 3S.

One of the best built replicas i have ever purchased, Cyma hit it out of the park again, the terror factor from an electric shotgun is not to be underrated.
Pros -Everyone i met want to see it but fears to be shot by it
Terror factor keeps your opponents heads down
Full auto lets you keep the opposition suppressed

Con – A little heavy for a full day but so much fun

These are great mags, and the value can't be beat! They feed great and I would recommend these to anyone. At 3 shots a trigger pull they empty quick but keep up with the high rate of fire
Only down side is pouches but i found a double pouch without a bungee works

they fit well
they feed well
but they dont really last all that long while using full auto .

works verry well
doesnt have a lot of battery space
kind of heavy ,but really fun to shoot

Sgr-12 is awsome. I've tried it out and it's more than I expected. I only expected one magazine to come with it, to my surprise, it came with 2. Not huge but happily unexpected. Shipping was also awsome, Poland to Wisconsin, USA in 5 days! Ordered on Sunday, recieved on the next Friday. Wow. Thank you

Sadly first game and semi shoots like auto
Purformed well but in the end of the game it started making a screeching sound when fired
Its in warranty so i will consider sending it back for repairs
Build quality is good heavy and sturdy
It can be a bit tiring when used extensively
Used it with its own mags and a TM drum mag that fits perfectly just a little tap to the bottom so it can stay in place

How does this perform? My Brother in Christ it is a full-auto triple barrel shotgun. It is 4.4 kilograms of malice caged in an machined aluminium frame that holds nothing but contempt for silly concepts such as "overshooting" and "the suffering of others". Man had no say in its creation, its existence on this earth serves to remind us that our own frail mortality is in the hands of horrors beyond our comprehension.

10/10 pretty good, get big mag pouches.

Les fausses cartouches apparente sont du plus belle effet
Chargeur massif attention ne rentre pas dans les poches chargeur classique ni poche radio
Sa feed bien aucun problème pas de jeux dans le puit de chargeur

Superbe réplique respire la solidité
Je la trouve supérieur a la marui
Réactivité au top groupement des billes parfait les hop up fonctionne bien que sa soit en 0.20 ou 0.28
Pour un fonctionnement optimal la 11.1 est obligatoire sinon elle devient asthmatique a la 7.4 et de préférence prendre une batterie avec au moins 20 25c de taux de décharge 30 et idéal pour le full auto qui fait un bruit dément et fait baisser les têtes
Bref une très belle réplique je recommande

Strzelba jeszcze nie używana na strzelaniu, ale pierwsze wrażenia świetne! Wygląda solidnie, swoje waży - niby to minus, aczkolwiek dla mnie tylko dodaje uroku. I na pewno ciekawsza niż kolejny klon M4 :)

Great looking mag; works with no problem. It has a long follower that pushes all of the bbs in the replica. It was well oiled out-of-the-box and it's not that hard to disassemble... but it takes a while. However, it's huge! Measurements: 238mm (length), 76mm (width), 35mm (thickness). In my oppinion the capacity could be a lot higher - it wastes a lot of space.

I love this replica! It's heavy (4,7 kg with a mid-cap magazine), but it's compact. The upper is metal and nicely machined, no wobble anywhere. However, it's ROF is very slow (even with a 11.1V lipo). When shooting in semi, make sure that you hold the trigger back all the way through the cycle (more reliable and better for the gearbox). Also, the battery compartment is really small - inside of it I removed two small towers/nubs and now I can insert a battery relativly easyly. The max length of the battery you can squise inside is 10,6 cm and about 2,2 cm thick. The iron sights you get with it are very nice as well; when flipped down they are "pistol ssights" and when you flip them up, they are adjustable and "rifle style". The pistol grip could be a bit more vertical (for my taste) and it looks like it could be replaced with another one. In the end: no regrets

A heavy beast, great fun to shoot, it scares everyone, but keep in mind that the bark is greater than the bite. Great to mid to low distances, consider it like one of those trishot pump action shotguns, you get about the same range and acuracy, use good bbs to get and extra but do not plan to use it in all scenarios without heavy moding. The mags are reliable and bulky, so plan your gear and to buy a drum for it so you can use it in all it's glory. Note: Hit the gim if you have wimpy arms, nothing is more sad than to see a player dragguing this beast while complaining.

This thing is a BEAST.
It's a heavy hitter, very accurate and an eyecatcher.
I combined it with a TM drum mag that supports more than 3000 BB's so reloading? Never heard of it.

You'll get haters on the field, LOVE IT !!!

Warning this gun is heavy!!!! It is super fun to play with. It is amazing at CQB. You have to be careful with over firing and making people mad. 3 shots per trigger pull and a pretty good fire rate equals lots of bb’s headed down range. Most players understand it shots like a real shotgun with a spray of projectiles but you always those couple who get pissed at any little thing so be careful.

Overall an awesome gun. Only issue is the weight.

first game and semo shoot doenst work.
Shop sais i hgave to send the weapon to warranty
delivery from spain is over 50 eur that i have to pay
dont waste your money in this weapon!!! first game and is wroken!!

Bought the replica at the Day One and already used it a lot, what can i say? It's the best option if you are looking for an electric shotgun and you have limited budget!! It comes with a mosfet and very solid internals, 3 adjustable hop-ups that grants it a nice range! Obviously is designed for CQB, as now i solidly engaged at maximum 30-35 meters with 0.28g BBs with precision.
A great gun! The trigger response is very snappy too and is loud as hell! ALL PROs!

One of the best buy i could get from here!

Oh! And is Tokyo Marui compatible.

Had a blast with the replica at an event this Sunday. It is amazing for CQB scenarios and realistically the fire rate is slow enough for it to be allowed indoors on full-auto. I do suggest getting a drum mag for it though, as reloading the mid-caps is very tedious and you will need to do it several times during intense rounds.

So, why 3 stars? Well, I can't attest to the build quality as something came loose and wobbles around inside now after only one game and the gun has lost a lot of air seal, thus power, and the fire ring sound is horrible now.

I have long owned and used Tokyo Marui AA-12. It had several downsizes: 1) FET accepted 7,4V lipol only, 2) sling mounting points attached to iron sights made attaching screws get loose quickly, 3) no way to attach a red dot or weapon light and the worst 4) squeeky plastic body that bend under your hands.

Now CYMA came up with a version of an electric shotgun, that solves all the issues. I mean all of them. Also is shorter so manipulation with the gun is better. Has better muzzle velocity (but lower rounds per sec even with 11,1V lipol, you might want to change the motor immediately). From my POV all thumbs up, I love this gun and all of its features. Just get a TM drum for it, it is shorter and holds over 3000 BBs, best optional improvement ever - I hope CYMA starts producing its own version soon.

Very solid and well made replica! The quality is outstanding, all the parts are very rigid, there is no wobble or creaking anywhere. The performance is also top quality - cycles great on both semi and full auto and the magazine feeds with no problem. The power is around 310-320 FPS with 0.20g BB, so the replica is best for CQB.

The only downsides are that the battery space is a little small, and the replica is very heavy - it is best to use a sling or retention device!

Bought it with the new shotgun, got 3 mags and all of them work perfect in my opinion, if you have a good speeloader this will be a perfect buy if you got the shotgun as wel, the delivery was fast en got to play with it within a week